bluebballjumper wrote:During many discussions with my sister, thoughts were brought up about the nature of Max and Liz's relationship. The ironic part of the whole show is that though we all rooted for them to be together in the end, they were really bad for each other if you think about it.
Ultimately, i'm going to cast my vote and say they were "good" for each other. Tess wasn't good for their relationship and she was an obstacle in their way that they managed to overcome in the end (unfortunately... not the resolution i was looking for but a resolution nevertheless)! However, even as a Dreamer, i can still see the pro and con side to their relationship.
1) Liz was all set on going to Harvard and graduating first in her class, because of her relationship with Max, she didn't even get a chance to go to college.
I understand what you're trying to say here.
Ultimately, being healed by Max led to her "change." In turn, this "change" and her connection/relationship to Max, Michael, and Isabel made her an open target for the FBI too! And yes, her relationship to Max did serve as a "distraction" from "normal" life ventures (ie... attending college etc.). Therefore, in essence, what you are saying is true. Liz didn't get to attend college because of the relationship. Afterall, had she never been healed by/involved with Max the FBI wouldn't have targeted her, right? However, i think it's important to note that it's a "willing" sacrifice Liz made when she decided to continue pursuing a relationship with Max. She could have "walked away" and never looked back but she didn't; therefore, i'm sure she was aware that she could be required to sacrifice normalcy at any given moment when the circumstances called for it!
2) Because of the whole relationship, Max became a cheater and a teenage father.
Granted, i'll be the first to admit that i absolutely hated the M/T "sex" and baby storyline. In my opinion, this plot line brought out the worst in the Max character and permanently tarnished the M/L relationship. I stand firmly by my resolve that it was not a "mistake" season Max 1 would have fallen prey too! That was not a part of his "character." I think it never should have happened and the show majorly suffered b/c of it! Therefore, i blame the writers.
However, the "relationship" didn't cause Max to become a "cheater" or "teenaged father." Max's bad/irresponsible decisions (no protection) caused him to become a father. He has to take responsibility for that by himself (w/Tess). Also, i didn't like Max's conduct at the end of season 2 but i think "cheater" is the wrong term to apply to the situation. Technically, he wasn't "with" Liz; therefore, he couldn't cheat on her. But i do think the writers supplied Max's character with "player tendencies" at season 2's end. See, Max never displayed a geniune "interest" in his so-called destiny with Tess. Therefore, i had a problem with him turning to Tess only "after" Liz pushed him away. As much as i dislike Tess, he technically used her b/c he couldn't be with Liz. In the very same episode he sleeps with Tess, he tells her earlier on that the idea of them being together scares him. And then, he proceeds to react in a completely awkward fashion after sleeping with her. More "player tendencies" are evident in Departure when he passionately kisses Liz in the jeep to say good-bye and then he's kissing Tess shortly afterwards in her room. That's just wrong b/c he technically committed himself to his destiny at this point. Then, at the end of the episode he's declaring his "love" for Liz. That wasn't the proper time and place for that. My opinion.
See, season 1 Max would not have behaved this way. His character was such that he was honorable and had integrity. Yes, he would have been hurt if Liz left him (like he was in Destiny); however, he would have showed enough respect for Tess as well by taking the position "i'm not going to lead her on and be with her b/c i'm really not interested in a relationship with her." He would have let her down easily (like he did in Destiny) and walked away until he found a relationship that did interest him, got back with Liz, or stayed by himself. Whether we like Tess or not, it was just a part of season 1 Max to be considerate/respectful of everyone when it came to relationships. Yes, he made mistakes and wasn't perfect but i loved him and his maturity!
So, Season 1 Max/Liz are very good for each other!
3) Both Max and Liz ended up in jail after holding up a store.
I'm in agreement here.
But then again, i like to pretend season 3 never happened at all and pick up with fanfiction, so yeah, M/L still end up being good for each other!