Sundae wrote:
If you don't understand the difference between disagreeing with someone and stating the reasons why vs. dissuading someone of their opinion. I'm not sure what to tell you.
perhaps you could teach me
back on topic
I think that they were good for each other although i think that sometimes the more you love someone the more you risk and can suffer in the bad moments, you're more strong when you're together yet you're more vulnerable when you aren't. People aren't perfect ditto for the relationships. But the point is that some people are simply
perfect for each other.
I think that being together made it possible for them to really reach their full potential as individuals and show more layers of their personality that most likely they would never show with other people. Basically they discovered themselves and who they really are. Both M&L were control freaks, they were scared of the unknown and this repressed the more passionate and carefree side of their characters. When they fell in love and they finally were together they did things that they never did before.
Now i remember the scene from sexual healing when Maria said that Liz was unrecognizable and Liz replied that she was *herself* and the way she felt in that moment was the most real thing that she ever felt.
I also believe that the fact itself that their relationship wasn't always easy and they had to face many trials and tribulations made it possible for them to learn a good lesson, the fact that they had to live the now and appreciate what the present could give them, kiss like if it's the first and last kiss that you can share.
It was obvious to me that without each other they were miserable so even if their relationship was complicate and they had to "pay a price" for being together i think that it was worth it for them because in the end they were really happy only when they were together
they're also a good example of friends&lovers. The other was the only one who could really understand them, the only one who could really comfort them and who could see their tears and a more vulnerable side.
Roswellian117 wrote:But soul mates? I mean he saved her life but what really is a soul mate? Wouldn't they have had to love each other in other lifetimes for that to be possible?
You open an interesting discussion here.
I've read tons of theories about soulmates, many different interpretations. From what i understood the main interpretation is that people, or souls, can live many "lifes" and only in one of them they have, maybe, the chance to find someone who can really balance them out. This because finding your soulmate is rare and it's rare because ours isn't the only timeline and the only existing place in the universe. The point is that you find him/her. No matter when or where.
What a soulmate is? I think that it's the person with whom you share a connection that is totally irrational, it's a constant like if everything about your life tells you that you were supposed to find that person and you're lucky because if only one thing had happened differently you'd never met him/her. It's also the person who accepts you for who you really is, flaws included (this doesn't mean perfect relationship where everything is always easy.)
Max and Liz are considered soulmates because.. well they have that kind of connection, biggest example is when he died and she felt it and then she brought him back from death. His soul literally survived only for her, their love went beyond death. They had the ability to reach each other's souls. It's also the fact itself that Max saw her when he was a little boy and he instantly felt that she was the one for him (although his people programmed him to love another person)
When the original Zan lived Liz wasn't born yet. He died and the antarians cloned him, with all the planets in the universe they chose our planet and our race, with all the places in the world they chose Roswell.. and everything happened in the right moment because 40 years later Max was born and he could find Liz at the right age. Many coincidences (for example what if Jeff's first girlfriend didn't die? What if Kivar didn't kill Zan or he killed him into another moment?).
It really seems that Zan got the chance to find his soulmate through Max, he had to travel time and space in order to find her (Ronald Moore's citation)
I remember what dupe Ava said about her Zan. The fact that he was awaiting for someonelse. It was obvious to me that they were implying that Max found something that his dupe never got the chance to find maybe because he died too soon or maybe because a "Liz" for him wasn't born yet who knows.
Max said that the shooting was fate, maybe he was right. Also he always got flashes from the people that he healed but only Liz received flashes from him while he was healing her.
and what about FMax? Even when they tried to chance the future M&L still loved each other and married in both timelines. It's the epitome of meant to be.
Honestly i think that the word soulmates is overused in tv-shows, i love other couples that are called soulmates yet M&L are my only shipper that i can really call like that because they proved it to me, they kinda fit with the basic "requirements" (if we can call them like that) although the concept is surely up to different opinions and i think that it's complicate to develop it (maybe in sci-fi shows it's a bit easier) but they at least gave me something that made it possible for me to find the word believable when used to describe them. I also appreciate that unlike many other couples they never really called each other like that, it was more a matter of being like that than saying it, even after all the incredible things that happened to them and that they were able to overcome they never said that their relationship was more "special" than the others... they just wanted to love each other like everyone. And maybe this is another thing that made them more authentic in my eyes.