Re: Unbreakable - A Beautiful Lie (AU M/L ADULT) Ch 72, 2/1/16, p. 60
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:48 pm
amazing and I loved her and diana's time together
Roswell, written the way it ought to be....
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*laughs* Oh, you're wonderfulApparently I'm a bit of a geek for this story.
I’m not surprised that you did expect a big rescue party. After all, that’s what usually happens, isn’t it? But then, it probably would have happened sooner. Obviously, something else has been going on for this whole thing (captivity) to drag on.I don't know why I was expecting some big rescue party. After all it's not like that would even be feasible. They'd be going up against military. More military than any members they might have on their side. Plus there's nowhere they could hide - we've read that repeatedly in the story. And they'd have to be able to let Max and Liz rest and recover before they would be of any help in the rebellion. The best place to do that is at the Evans with Philip monitoring them. Can't really expect the aliens to just leave them alone to get better if they had escaped.
It might be tempting to send Mr. Evans, considering the injection to be given, but Philip is perhaps not trusted with that in this situation. Or Command just wanted to take control over the situation himself and take the opportunity to ”inform” Liz of what they were doing, while evaluating Liz and her traits.So why was it Command who came to Liz? Obviously there's a reason he was the one instead of sending someone else - even if that someone *wasn't* Philip. But then again Philip would have made the most sense as he's a doctor (has been Liz's for about a decade) and she was injected with something. Something that Command had a 50/50 shot at getting from Philip. (I figure he either got it from Philip or the Sgt.)
And you’re right; someone like Liz would be good for their community. Someone that’s strong, but in who she is and also in her ability to connect to aliens (or one in particularSeriously though, he knows that she'll be good for the community. Even if she's turned it a bit upside down. (To put it mildly.) She's only ever fought to defend herself when necessary, she hasn't told any humans and even in the overwhelming fear she felt (while in the condition she was in) she was still respectful towards him. All of that has to (play in her favor and) bode well in *his mind* for a new way of doing things.
Maybe Max has been part of a trial (and Liz too - perhaps in both their absence), but Sean might have also lied to Liz about Max ”awaiting trial” or meant it figuratively rather than literal - that he should just pay for his mistakes. Not a ”real” trial. It would make sense, though, if they had been investigated while being captive. While being ”jailed”. It would also support why they are suddenly changing tracks and putting M/L together.Perhaps there was a trial for the two of them that we don't know about yet. That's been my gut feeling. Like they were tried and perhaps (somehow) not found guilty. Sean did say that Max was awaiting trial. He was "hopeful" that Max would be killed. It doesn't mean that he would be though - or that he would be found guilty.
Very interesting speculation you have there about Philip telling Max everything. That maybe Max would have to heal Philip to get that information out of him. Not that impossible… But you never know in this story. Max will (should) learn Philip’s story soon enough. There is (obviously) a lot that Philip hasn’t shared - with perhaps no one else outside of himself.Side note about Philip - when is he going to tell Max everything? I'm assuming Max's mind is equally Unbreakable so it should be safe to impart all the info to him (helping Liz, the resistance, etc.). But then that might be more emotion based than Philip is used to displaying. Maybe the only way Max finds out is if he has to heal his dad to the point of forming a connection. Because I get the feeling that Philip wants his son to live his life and not be beholden to him. He wants Max to carry the responsibilities he'll be entrusted with but he doesn't have the emotional capacity (that we've seen so far) to really open up to his son. And maybe that's not 'logical' enough for him. So maybe a massive healing is required.
And as you can tell from the reflections from Liz in chapter 67, Max has possibly been treated far worse than she has. Because he’s part of them, they don’t have to think about covering for his absence to the same degree as with Liz, and - as you said - he’s the ”criminal” in all of this.The sparseness of the room and all of the above basically guarantee he was treated worse than she was. Which is horrible but at least he'll know how to help her in (almost) every situation. And it means he's stronger than he was when he went in (emotionally, etc.)
I have the feeling of wanting to run in there and hug them as well. Especially since they’re my babies. But I think they’ll do a fairly good job at supporting each other right now.There was a lot in this chapter. (And it was a long one to boot! Yay!) Emotionally you just wanted to run in there and hug them both until everything was right again. I don't think either one of them want to be touched by anyone (except each other) right now but that still doesn't get rid of the feeling.
Max is still shielding her. He might be weakened, so when he gets really angry it spills over and past his block, but he will try his best to block her from his experiences right now. He notices that she’s not strong enough for that. Especially not while they’re still trapped there. It would frighten her and maybe even put her in some state of shock. Obviously, Liz is trying to do the same for Max, but she’s not as trained and not nearly strong enough. Liz will know what Max has experienced soon enough though. It’s important that he shares it with her - the bond (both the natural and the alien) relies on them being honest and completely open towards each other.The part where Liz tries to hide it all from Max and he sees glimpses of what happened to her was just heartbreaking. She obviously wasn't ready for him to see that and he really isn't in any state to *see* it.
He's obviously still shielding her though. It must have been pretty bad. You wonder if he was ever beaten to keep *her* from being beaten. It wouldn't be the first time something similar has happened.![]()
Your theory on what might have happened to Max the last 6 days is an interesting one. maybe you’re onto something there.Let's say they left Liz alone the last six days after Sean tried his last rape attempt on the fourth day. If they realized at that point that the bond was Unbreakable (or at least finally started to suspect that it was) that means instead of Liz being tortured the last six days they basically were experimenting on and testing Max. (To include probably torturing him as well.)
About them not attempting to block the connection by turning off their powers earlier; Max’s powers might have been ”turned off” this whole time. And since Liz is not alien and doesn’t have any powers, they didn’t think of trying to ”turn off” any possible powers in her as well. They most likely realized (after several ”unfortunate” run-ins with Liz and her ”strength”) that the connection was either giving Liz powers or they had awoken some of her own potential powers. Since they seem to believe that powers are connected to connections (and maybe they usually are), they finally figured out that they needed to turn them off from both Liz’s and Max’s side. And maybe the delay was a combination of them doing something else in those days (for instance, putting Max on trial, deciding what to do next etc) and figuring out how to block powers in a human. Because I’m sure they haven’t exactly encountered any humans with powers before.I am curious though - why not shut down the connection on both sides before? If they saw that merely weakening Max and Liz wasn't working, why not attempt the same set-up they did when moving Liz? As long as she was conscious when Sean raped her (*shudders*) they would have to assume a strong connection would be made. I'm curious why they didn't go with that option.
Aliens do have heightened senses. Remember how Sean commented that he could smell Liz when Max was trying to hide them? So Max is not the only one. Apparently, humans are very smelly (that’s why we can never stand downwind if we are trying to hunt an animal) and I heard this interview with a specialist in human olfaction once who said that the human sense of smell is grossly underestimated. We have a very well developed sense of smell, but we don’t rely on it and we don’t acknowledge it in everyday life. Which interested me (because I’m one of those who is personally very bothered by smells - feel them acutely) and made me think that if aliens can utilize the human brain differently than humans, why would they not be able to use senses that we underestimate and ”take for granted” to their full capacity?Do Antarians have heightened senses over all? They feel more strongly (though the range of emotions is limited in full bloods). They crave spicy and sweet foods (taste). We had hint that Max could almost hear Liz (or at least she felt like it) at the beginning of the story when she was talking to Maria in the cafeteria. Maybe he almost could simply by focusing his hearing on her. And now there's this "you smell like chemicals" statement.
There are several reason to suspect that an offspring to a coupling with such a powerful connection would be powerful. But it might also be completely normal. A child would most likely have alien abilities either way, but it might not be colored by the connection at all since it’s specific for Max and Liz. Hence, not making the child as powerful.The good news is at their age at least their not interested (I imagine) in seeing how strong any potential offspring would be. It seems that gaea offspring are extremely powerful when created with a strong Antarian. The Sgt. thought so at least or he wouldn't have been so insistent on having children with Nancy. Makes you wonder if any gaea offspring would fight in the rebellion. Not that there are that many but still...
You’re exactly right about Max finally breaking. Finally realizing that it doesn’t ”save” or help him and Liz if he’s compliant. And they’ve done too much now - to Liz - for him to be able to swallow it and go back to be the ”good” and ”reliable” hybrid he used to be.I don't know if I can pick out just one (or even three!) favorite parts in this chapter but I know I *loved* when Max was yelling at them/talking to the camera. It perfectly encapsulated that moment mentally when he realized that they weren't going to be a part of this any more. That he and Liz would fight against it any way they could. That he had (maybe) started to stop with the self-hate and instead focus on just loving her, protecting her and not necessary aligning himself up with the "alien" camp any more. No more just following their rules and being "a good boy in the community." I think he needed that as much as he needed to get all the emotions out it caused.
The reason why Sean and his father showed up with a gun is most likely because they themselves don’t have powers. But they still don’t trust that Liz and Max are not powerful. They’ve seen frightening things from Liz - even though she’s human (as far as we knowI'll have to admit the Carters showing up with a gun surprised me. At first I was all "Max can't use his powers so Liz probably can't tap into them. Thus the gun." But the two of them not being able to use *their* powers shouldn't have any effect on the Carters using *theirs*.
And what would make them all lose their powers? Just like you’ve already hypothesized, there’s something that’s affecting the whole room. Considering that their powers are all based on energies, it should be something that can disturb energies… Right?Maybe there's some kind of energy field that can be switched on around the room which would nullify any power that the aliens have. That would explain why Max doesn't know what happened to his powers and why the Sgt/Sean wouldn't have any.
They very most likely used Liz as a ”weapon” against him, quickly figuring out just how much she means to him. Really, only him knowing that she was in captivity (even if they hadn’t even touched her) would have been enough to torture him.The line about Max having tried being quasi-respectful and him being tired of Liz in pain/exposed to all this piqued my interest. It sort of solidified a thought I had running around in my head that they very likely used Liz's confinement as a way of controlling Max. Basically going "if you don't do xyz then she's the one that's going to suffer for it."
The immobilization of Max’s powers will be explained in the future, but no, it probably wasn’t turned off all the time…They obviously haven't been turning off Max's powers often (or at least it doesn't sound like it). So how did they manage to have him immobilized before?
And Sean has been too busy visiting Liz to pay Max any visits. He might be a bit dense (Sean, that is), but he probably understands to not visit Max in this situation (even if he did taunt Liz that he would).And given the strong reactions Max had towards Sean I don't think Sean has been to see him. If he had then I'm pretty sure Max would have tried to kill him already before just out of anger for attempting to rape Liz in the gym and then almost killing her at the meeting. Also, had Sean actually made Max heal him after Liz bit him he wouldn't be trying to play the cocky game that he did in this chapter.
And I can tell you that the Sergeant probably wasn’t too focused on Max either, but that will be mentioned in the future as well. My lips are sealedSo then the question becomes, if Sean was focused on Liz and breaking her couldn't we say the same for the Sgt?
Yes, it’s odd that Sarge would bring his son along with him and maybe we’ll never find out why (considering that they are now dead). Or clues will show up in the future. who knows?I'm actually pretty surprised that the Sgt took Sean with him into the room to be honest.
I think Max is in an interesting position right now. On one hand, he is probably grateful that his ”alienness” has contributed to keeping Liz safe while she’s been in captivity. On the other hand, his alienness makes him part of the same society that has treated Liz so badly. But it’s leaning towards Max actually starting to accept his strength and Liz probably has an important role in that. To sound a bit silly, but she might just be ”completing” him. Bringing forth the strength he has to some degree repressed in attempt to be as normal and human as possible (while at the same time refining his abilities to never have to be put in a submissive position - to give him control and security, in a way).I did love the protectiveness of Max though - as well as his attitude in the entire situation. He's basically done taking crap from anyone, he's not going to let anyone even talk badly about Liz without calling them out on it and he's finally becoming more secure in who *he* is. I really hope that this security bleeds over into how he feels about his heritage. They've just suffered incredible pain at the hands of the full-bloods (and possibly some hybrids, we don't know). But the same "alien" heritage has kept them alive (literally) time and time again.
Your reflection on Max’s labeling of his race is an interesting one. Yes, he usually refers to them as aliens. Mostly towards Liz (because she - at least in the beginning - wouldn’t have any reference to the word ”Antarian”), but also silently in his head. This is connected to the fact that he sees himself as very alien, in the adjective definition of the word (unfamiliar and disturbing or distasteful), and especially views his community in the same way. He hasn’t learnt to associate himself with being an Antarian yet. Because he doesn’t have any historical connection to the people he came from. Maybe, if he would let himself know more about the good parts of his background, he might learn to become proud of being an Antarian.I've noticed that other people refer to their heritage as "Antarian" and Max refers to it as "alien" even in his thoughts. It makes sense when other people refer to it with humans (ie Liz) as "alien" because they're using terminology that is understandable to her. But Max so disliked his heritage he doesn't even call that part of himself "Antarian." I hope Liz (and the bond) can help him overcome that. There's probably good things about their culture that Liz *would* like but she's only seen the bad and in Max's eyes there hasn't been any good.
Even if Liz wouldn’t trust Philip (which she does, even if she might not be realizing it herself yet), she’s not dumb. She knows that he’s the only one that could save Max right then. Calling someone else would just delay Max’s healing and increase the risk of him dying. So, just like all the other times she’s reached out for Philip, the main incentive is to protect and save Max. It’s all for Max.Oh - the part where Liz calls Philip? One of my (many) favorite parts of the chapter! (Along with Max provoking the Sgt, Sean, teasing Liz after he's hurt, etc. etc.) The fact that her first thought was to call him goes to show just how much she trusts him. She could have called Alex and asked him to send help. But she knew who could help and didn't hesitate to call him. Then again she's done that (to some degree or other) two other times when Max was hurt.
There’s the ”possibility” that Liz has a lot of repressed memories from her childhood. Maybe she’s seen things that the aliens didn’t know she saw, so rather than them erasing them, she has repressed them. As we’ve noticed, Liz’s experiences have a strong ability to bleed into her dreams… Are they some kind of premonitions? Are they some kind of communication from the bond? Or are they just her fears realized? HmmmI seem to remember somewhere there was mentioned Liz being scared of monsters with large claws, etc. under her bed. I had wondered if that was part of the alien's real form. If she saw something with her mom when she was a girl and that her subconscious never forgot it (or at least all of it). Can you imagine seeing the monsters you thought were under your bed as a child? Or something that was worse then what you remembered but eerily similar? That would cause you to be terrified any time you were around a full blood for awhile. Some things you just can't un-see.
I can tell you right now that M/L won’t go home after their rescue. That just wouldn’t be safe. The ”bad” aliens would be able to find them waaaay too easily. Plus, there would be too many questions about Max and Liz’s conditions - considering that they are both rather emaciated right now.I really don't know how they're going to be separated now. How do you deal with Max refusing to leave her (or her him) when they both still live with their parents and her father knows nothing (including where his daughter has really been for almost two weeks)? And I doubt Liz will go home as soon as they walk out of there. See? You've still got so much left to explore I'm all giddy! *laughs*
Liz has a real problem with blood. She has repeatedly shown her aversion to blood throughout the story. So for her to press her hands against Max’s wound, feeling the sticky and warm feeling of blood against her palm and his blood spilling out on the floor, she obviously is finding some strength inside of her to not pass out. Especially considering that she’s already horribly weakened and considering that she almost passed out when trying to find a phone (maybe the ”wave” that went through her and killed Sean and Sarge stole some energy from her). Safe to say; the only thing keeping her conscious is the need to safe Max. So yes, her love for him is very strong. Even without the connection (you hear that, Max?)Liz obviously puts Max above everything. Even if this wasn't clear before (you'd have to be incredibly stupid as you read to not know that) it's obvious given that she wasn't passing out upon seeing all the blood and dealt with Antarians in their true form while trying to save Max. How much they deserve each other!
It is actually quite interesting how many clues I leave for these future chapters that I don’t even know about myself. I’ve wondered about this myself. Maybe it’s one of my unconscious superpowers? Maybe I already have the whole story in my mind, even if I haven’t thought it out yet. Because I’m surprised myself, repeatedly, that my own clues lead up to actual facts in future chapters. Spoooooky.It's interesting how many clues you leave for future chapters when you're not exactly sure what happens in all the future chapters, don't you think? I personally think it's that spark of genius you have inside you.
Diane’s story is coming up in ch. 72I know you've said you'll include Diane's story at some point.
I’m kinda proud of myself for being so resilient and not telling you about JeffYou sneaky girl!
I was so hoping that Jeff knew or would be told. I mentioned it repeatedly. And you never broke down! Ha!
Well, Max and Liz were rescued from the Institute. Liz was moved just before that (in a car) so she was probably being held somewhere else. But most likely, Max has been at the Institute this whole time. We don’t really know how many people are employed at the Institute and/or how many would be involved with Max’s ”case”. And maybe such a delicate case like the Max and Liz bond would not be handled by your typical Institute people.So Max and Liz were kept at the Institute. Interesting.
About Max’s violent reaction to being separated from Liz: Remember that he had just been reunited with her after not knowing really what was happening to her and he had just promised her that he would never let her go again. And then they (doesn’t matter who ”they” are in this situation, according to Max) actually pull Max and Liz apart.It must have been really bad if Max didn't tell her but if he also became "quite violent" when the people he knew tried to keep him from Liz. Which is interesting in and of itself. After all, he knew that these people got them out and/or are the ones looking after them. Yet he still wasn't afraid of becoming aggressive when it came to watching over and protecting Liz. So whatever happened he feels like he needs to watch her constantly. (It just reinforced him worrying over her constantly like we read in 46 when he was making Liz pancakes.) Hmm...
Their current location is to be revealed, but first a couple of chapters into the future. But it’s somewhere they can remain for awhile. To hide and recuperate.And Alex and Isabel being there makes me wonder just where "there" is. So where is "there" now and how did they (whoever "they" are) manage to get Max and Liz out of The Institute? Obviously it was a matter of life and death at that point but where did they go and how did they get there?
Sarah? Hm. Maybe I’ll tie that loose string up someday ;-pAnd Sarah? Will she make an appearance soon? Because it seems like she would at some point. But then maybe not. Maybe she died a long time ago, maybe being married to the military means she's less likely to be a part of the rebellion.
Maybe Guerin would have been second in command, but their main task are to protect (Michael to protect Max for instance) so then maybe not. There’s also the mayor. And the unfamiliar man. But maybe it won’t matter anymore, considering that the rebellion is (hopefully) breaking ground, and hierarchies and roles are being broken up.Speaking of the military Liz killed the Sgt and Sean in the previous chapter. So does that mean the Guerins are now considered second in command? Mr. Guerin was sitting on the other side of Sgt. Carter at the council. Even if he's not high in the US military (and we don't know if he is or isn't) he could now be considered the highest in the military and Command's second. Which would be awkward for Max/Michael. I don't think Max plans on sharing Liz with Michael any more than he planned on sharing Liz with Sean.
About Max, Jeff and Liz. Yes, Max and Liz are young and normally Jeff would most likely oppose to ”letting Liz go” at such a young age. But this is not really a normal situation. Jeff will gradually learn that Max and Liz need each other. Especially due to their recent captivity. And his daughter’s happiness and well-being goes before his need to keep her his little girl. Which is too late now anyways. She’s been forced to grow up way too quickly lately. This doesn’t mean that Jeff hasn’t been hesitant. After all, there are hints that Jeff knows of his wife’s history with the aliens and that should make any father scared to death that his daughter will face the same reality. Especially since Max is also alien. How would he know that Max is a good alien and not a bad one? Steven appeared pretty okay to Nancy at first…I'm glad that he's able to be there for Liz though. And that he obviously realizes she's bonded with Max. The fact that he seems to support it makes it even easier. Though it'll be interesting to see how Max reacts to all of that. Liz (and her family/friends) has always represented freedom and normalcy for him. For Jeff to accept Max and support a relationship between Max and his daughter... I think that would go a long way to help heal Max's self-loathing (even if he's not aware of that healing right away). And of course to know that Liz can be honest with her father... That has to take a major load off of him. He never wanted her to have to carry his life of secrecy.
Still it would be hard for Jeff to "let Liz go" so early in her life. But better to let her go willingly and happily to Max than be forced into a false relationship and taken from him via Sean.
Alex has always been on Liz’s side. Well, at least since he became her friend. He’s very loyal and he loves her very much (as a friend, of course - no triangle drama here). He wouldn’t be able to support a society that would hurt her repeatedly if he was presented with the possibility of changing the society to the better. He’s stronger than we might know; he also grows quickly (just like Max) because he feels many feelings and develop deep empathic feelings for situations and people in his surroundings.Obviously Alex has made his decision about who he will stand by. I think he made it a long time ago but to be with Max and Liz now when others must be looking for them, well he's basically going against his own. So that can't be a good ending if they lose. I think he's stronger and more mature than Liz has seen of him. Much like Maria having grown lately. I think a lot of things have been going on behind the scenes that even Max isn't aware of which has made Alex grow up pretty fast.
Max has either been watching Liz (as in, being in the vicinity of her room) and noticing her nightmares, felt her feelings of a nightmare, or even shared her nightmares. Of course, all of this could be true, just at different points to their bonding process. Depending on how much of the nightmares he experienced (either through a mere emotional experience or actually falling into the nightmare), he would be acquiring different efforts to ”reach” her. Knowing Max, if he were to start feeling her anxiety (but not knowing what it was about), it might just propel him out of his house (even if it was in the middle of the night) and make his way across town to her house, just to see that she was okay. *shrugs* But that’s just a very hypothetical theoryI'm curious as to how Max got into the dream though. Obviously it was through the connection. But I have been curious before when he went that night to answer Liz's questions. He obviously knew that she had been having nightmares. I just wonder if he had ever seen them before. Obviously it would've been more about the fire, but did he have to focus in order to see her nightmares at that point?
You’re right. Max couldn’t be sure if it was a nightmare originating from a memory or if it was a pure (made-up) nightmare when he entered it. But he knew that he needed to stay calm. If he would freak out too, he would influence Liz’s feelings and make the whole situation worse. She’s not very good with being overwhelmed by his feelings as it is. Sean could have done something like that. Just for dramatic effect. But he probably would have been stopped by his ”superiors”. However, the scene might have been transferred from Sean’s mind to Liz’s as he was in the vicinity of her (since Sean should have been able to push images/memories into Liz’s mind just as the Sergeant had done, but maybe not as efficiently), giving Liz the ”idea” of what Sean wanted to do. She might have not been consciously receiving the scenario, but enough for it to show itself in her dreams later on…I'm glad that Max was able to help her in the nightmare. Can you imagine the anger, guilt and just sick to the stomach feeling he would've had? At that point he did not know that it had not happened. And the sad part is Sean was mentally sick enough to do something like that. Although I don't think he would've put himself at risk. So he would have found a way to make sure he was never the one who was shot. Still, just the fact that he put such fear into Liz has to make Max more than a little annoyed that he wasn't able to kill Sean with his own two hands. Of course even if he had he'd still have all the anger he carried to deal with and Liz's brokenness as well. It is going to be a long journey for the two of them. Max is right though, just waking her up wouldn't have fixed it. They're going to have to deal with the root of the problem.
Jeff would have wanted to stay with Liz, but he’s very close to his daughter and he can see where the source to her comfort and healing lies (through Max). And putting the pieces of his broken daughter back is his first priority, no matter how it’s done. If it’s him that is in charge of the glue or if it’s Max.I'm glad that Jeff is secure (and mature) enough to give them some privacy to talk. If he knows everything that's been going on as Isabel claims he does then it would be hard for him to leave Liz unattended.
Jeff knows stuff, but he has not really been let in on every single gruesome detail of his wife’s life and certainly not of what’s been going on with Liz. No one - not even Max - fully knows what has happened to Liz during her captivity at this point. And about Mr. Whitman not stopping the Sergeant from abusing Nancy; it all comes back to what Max and the rest have told Liz before. The protector is not to protect the gaea from aliens, but from enemies (which, of course, could be rebellious aliens, but mostly humans). There is no need, according to their system, to protect the gaea from her ”intended”. He is allowed to do what he pleases with her and anyone who might bear witness to it chooses not to see. Mr. Whitman was in no position to stand up against Sarge.I do wonder how much he actually knows though. I can't imagine he would be that calm if he knew *everything* Liz and his wife suffered through. He might be around friendly faces right now but even these friendly faces had a hand in the matter. Dr. Evans would've healed Nancy again and again after the Sgt raped and beat her. Mr. Whitman, as far as we know, never stopped in to stop it. So in some ways they were covering up for the Sgt - even if it was to keep all of their people safe. That has to be a hard pill to swallow for Jeff. How do you merge that with these being the same people who have tried to pull Liz out but only after eleven days of torture? I'd be angry as heck and wanting to rake *all* of them over the coals.
About the fire; Max was there when Sean did what he did to Nancy. When he ended her life. So Max was already at the Parkers’ residence. He was still there when it was decided to set the house on fire to hide the true cause of Nancy's death. So maybe he just hadn’t really left the ”crime scene” before Liz and her father arrived. Which is also why Mr. Evans knew where Max was when Liz called him. He quickly put two and two together, considering that he probably knew what had happened at the residence. Or maybe he was about to leave when he had a bad feeling (I’m sure he already had plenty of bad feelings about that fire, but you probably know what I mean…) that something more was about to happen. So he went back, only to see Liz about to get into her room - her burning room.It also makes me wonder about the fire. We still don't know how the aliens knew to set the fire when they did. Someone had to have been told that Liz and Jeff were heading back. That's the only way that Max would've been there. He went there, he specifically said, to make sure that Liz was okay. I imagine his father had something to do with that. It was really the least suspicious way for Max to be able to heal Liz in a way that required deep healing.
And then there’s this theory of yours that someone orchestrated the whole thing so that Max would be there to heal Liz. To create that bond. Maaaybe… But then, as you say, to actually make it click that Liz would decide to get into the house and get hurt… It all seems a bit too advanced, doesn’t it?Someone told the rebellion they were heading home early, the mind reader (most likely) sets fire to the Crashdown then encourages Liz to try and save her mother. Which leads to Max rescuing Liz and healing her, forming their connection. Philip doesn't heal Max all the way to encourage it to grow and strengthen (perhaps not realizing how badly Liz was injured). Or perhaps it was so Max would *have* to heal Liz again to (again) deepen the bond at a faster pace.
And a mind-reader amongst the rebellion? Hmmm… strong theory thereThis leads me to think the mind reader they have on the rebellion side is quite high up. Maybe one from The Institute? Sarah's husband perhaps? Maybe the same one who helped load Max into the SUV? He obviously couldn't let on that he was any where near the scene either before or after without being questioned as to why he didn't step in to erase Liz's mind after Philip left with Max.
The whole shapeshifting incident with Sean sure has messed with both Max and Liz’s minds. Let’s just hope that the connection keeps them ”real” when it comes to seeing real from unreal in this case.It sucks that both Liz *and* Max have to suffer because of Sean pretending to be Max. I thought of Liz being jumpy occasionally and Max feeling guilty but there's more to it that I didn't think of at first. Liz obviously has to work through it being "Max" that assaulted her the worst and it being "Max" that she burned. Even if it wasn't him just the fact that she has those images in her mind could be enough to cause nightmares for a long time. Like if, when she started burning him, he turned into the "real" Max.
There’s, unfortunately, no good or bad side here. The rebellion is probably not the exact opposite to the ”old ways”. The laws and how they’ve ruled the world is not going to change over night, if they were to win the ”war”. They have been doing this for many generations on Earth (and who knows if the system has been about the same on Antar), so it won’t be the ”solution” to everything. Which is why Max is going to be resistant against him and Liz’s involvement. Because he knows that the ways of the rebellion are not the end of everything that is corrupt and bad about the ”old ways”. He’s seen too much bad qualities from aliens during his lifetime to be able to trust that everything is going to work itself out. But… At least the rebellion must be better than Command and company. And that’s worth fighting for.And if the rebellion is real they aren't much better then the Sgt and company. They want to use Max and Liz just like the other side did. Yes, this way they'd probably get to stay together and (hopefully) a better system would be put into place but they still haven't been honest and want to use them. So it's basically going to be a "lesser of two evils" kind of thing. Which isn't exactly the kind of relationship (or motivation) if there is a rebellion. Especially if they're both traumatized. :-/
About Philip being drained after healing; He can be supplied energy to heal but to return him energy to recuperate - which essentially is the definition of healing - can only be done by another healer. I.e. Max. Which he just gave his energy to. So other aliens can help out with the healing process, but unless Mr. Evans is healing himself they can’t do anything about his own energy. And it would be too late to heal himself in this case, since all of his energy had already gone to Max and Liz. Now, he could have asked for a supplement of energy already from the start - when healing Liz and Max - but he most likely healed Max on the spot (at the Institute) and maybe it was not possible (or safe) to use anyone else’s energies right then. Does all of that make any sense? Other aliens can use their energy to amplify someone’s power/ability, but - unless they’re a healer - they can’t replenish someone’s energy. Two different things, reallyQuick observation though: if Philip was drained after healing Max and transferring energy to Liz (because she was almost surely very low - dangerously so) why not also have two or three aliens transfer energy to him in addition to resting? Then he wouldn't have still been resting when Isabel talked to Liz after they'd been out of it for three days. But then maybe he's just taking it easy after and getting extra rest. Plus we don't know yet what he's been doing behind the scenes since Max and Liz were rescued. Or what all he was doing during their captivity.
I have no idea how I manage to answer questions and raise new ones. I’m not even aware that I’m doing it. I think you think too much, dearHow you manage to answer a couple of questions and raise a ton more is beyond me!![]()
Philip’s role in this whole ”spectacle” will reveal itself not too far into the future. I’m writing on that passage of the story right now - trying to string all the clues together. And you’re very smart as to realize that it would be natural for the Whitmans to be a part of a rebellion. They do see a lot, being the protectors of the gaeas. And since their primary gaea (Nancy) was treated the way she was, their opinions about gaeas and their treatment might have just gotten even worse over the last couple of years.So Philip obviously has been with the resistance for quite awhile.
The Guerins are a bit more tricky…The Guerins being a part make sense in the fact that they're the Evans protectors and there would be a strong relationship there. But on the other hand I've been wondering what finally pushed them to that decision. A relationship with the Evans would encourage it but would it finalize that decision when the Guerin family is obviously so high up in the military? Being a traitor is a big thing, especially given their rank in society.
Michael’s role in this whole thing is also brought up again (of course), but he’s not as clear-cut as, for instance, Alex. Michael and Max has never been very close. It’s been more of a ”working relationship” and it shows even during this whole rebellion. Your theory about Michael working behind the scenes, even to the point that Max is not aware, is an interesting one… Hmmm…And of course I wonder about Michael whenever the Guerins make an appearance or are mentioned. I'm not sure how much he knows but I think he knows a lot more than Max has known up until this point.
I don’t just throw information in there just for funThe name Dresden is a red flag. You don't just throw out random bits of information for no reason.
The society has in a manner started to ”rupture”. Just imagine, with the aliens having infiltrated most levels of society and are spread out in different organizations/governmental positions, if some of them (maybe even a majority of them) suddenly switched sides. They would be able to affect things from the inside if they were working for the rebellion. Jeopardizing everything. Changing the whole structure that the ”old” aliens have built up. In a way, making everything collapse. But sometimes, you have to break something/remove it, to be able to rebuild it - from scratch.The phrase "rupture of a society" seems key. Usually for something to rupture there's a lot of pressure below ground or behind the scenes. So it's something that's been building for awhile.
Judging from Alex’s confused reaction to not being able to read Liz; for someone to completely block their ”colors” is probably not an usual occurrence. So this is different from regular aliens. Makes you wonder if Max or Philip can see her colors right now? If her aura is ”gone”… Which would really stress Max out.It's interesting that Alex can't read Liz any more. She's obviously put up a very strong wall. I'm wondering if that's normal. For Antarians I mean. Obviously humans shouldn't be able to do that at all. But if Antarians are able to hide all their emotions or put up that strong of a wall then how do mind wipers ever get their assignments accomplished? I think it's rare someone can do that - regardless of their genetics.
Since the rebellion believes that Liz and Max are their only true solution to this whole thing, and Command explained to Liz that he could make her unconscious by breaking the blood supply (and hence, oxygen) to her brain, there is the big risk that Command can actually kill people (aliens and humans) with a flick of his wrist. Making their hearts stop beating. So it would be good if someone was immune to this. If he couldn’t affect the motor functions of someone. Like Max and Liz. Taking this into account, there is the possibility that this is what the rebellion is hoping for. What they’re hoping will be the final development of Max and Liz’s bond.Command seems like he wasn't expecting to be able to control Liz and not have access to her mind. Obviously they're different parts but if the bond is strengthened/completed I don't think he'd even be able to do that (control her I mean). It would make a fight a lot more fair and actually give the resistance a chance of over throwing the current structure.
Max really needs Liz. He knows that he can’t push her. He knows that she has a tendency to pull away when things become too much. But, as you say, she’s also trying to protect him. She doesn’t want him to see what she has been exposed to. And she doesn’t yet understand the power of the connection. How it has the power to help her. And how much she actually needs Max too. But in a way, the connection understands that she needs a break. It let her put the walls down, to protect her sanity. Because the connection is no good if one of them loses their mind.It's heartbreaking that Max can't read Liz and can't connect with her. Being connected with her is what got him through a lot of the rough patches (to put it mildly) just as much as it did for her. And any time they told him that they'd hurt *her* if he didn't comply he could (I imagine) go to their bond and *feel* her - calming himself down and allowing him to think a little bit more clearly.
Even if she can't bear to have anyone in her mind right now it's the very thing Max *needs*. He needs to feel her, to be surrounded by her and to be able to heal with her. But given how hard she's been fighting to keep people out it makes sense that she would revert to that once she found out another group wanted in. She would just completely shut down. Even if the group that acts like they want to help her. And Max, loving her so much, will allow her to keep the bond shut down even if it hurts him more and more every day and puts his healing back.
Max might have not had a particularly calm discussion with his father after Liz left, but that doesn’t mean that Max wouldn’t be able to put that to the side to help Liz. Or he actually did take a short walk to calm down before going to Liz. Ooor, he was paying like zilch attention to the meeting after Liz left, only thinking about where she was and why she was taking so long. So many optionsI have a feeling the conversation changed to her when she left though. Or even why Philip even had them go to that meeting if he's part of a rebellion. Though that seems slightly unlikely unless Max walked around to calm down before joining her. Because I don't think that conversation would be a calm one. A very enlightening one, maybe even the first time we see guilt from Philip, but definitely not a calm conversation. I wonder if Max would ever forgive his father for putting Liz through that when he could have stopped it beforehand.
Even if Max and Liz didn’t go through exactly the same torture (probably), they are - like you say - the only two people that have experienced something like that. And their experiences are similar in that they needed each other and their love was used against them. So they would be perfect candidates to help each other to heal. Max knows, from how Liz usually reacts (from having watched her for a long time and been at her check-ups) that she needs to be coaxed back into reality, or else she will easily just drift into her safe place. And he knows that he needs to show her that she’s not the only one damaged and that it was important to try and start build up her self-worth. That someone trusted her (with a razor close to vital blood vessels) and didn’t see her as incapable or weak.I'm glad he didn't let her run away. She's already doing that mentally as well and he can't stop it. But at least he was able to stop her from doing so physically. She needs to be close to him right now. He's the only one who's gone through torture with her (to some extent anyways - if the changes to his body are any indication) and he's the only one who can help her feel safe.
I will never get tired of hearing that you love my chapters, so please feel free to continue doing thatI *loved* this chapter. (Tired of hearing that yet?) It just sort of sucked you in from the get-go.
Max and Liz’s whereabouts will come up in…chapter 76, I believe. There’s really nothing to it, so I could just go ahead and tell you. But I’m notFirst off they're obviously somewhere with a lot of rooms if they were moved (in addition to each having separate rooms before). I have a feeling that Liz was technically on Institute grounds when she was being held separately from Max but I don't think they're there now. They technically could be but it seems unlikely.
Everyone that has allied themselves to the rebellion in some way went underground the second Max and Liz were rescued. Mr. Evans is no longer ”double-agent:ing”, but is instead focusing completely on bringing the bad guys down. All details of this are still being hidden from Liz - and hence also hidden from the readerThe bad aliens obviously know M/L are gone by now. That means the ones closest to them (the parents, the protectors, etc.) would all be on high surveillance. Which leads to the question of how all these people are able to come and go without raising too many eyebrows. (Or even how they were able to just leave their lives and stay wherever "there" is. Either way would single them out as being a potential part of the rebellion.)
Max is not really following his medical training and knowledge of the human/alien body when it comes to Liz. It’s like me, when my pets get sick. I immediately lose all reason and start imagining the worst (cancer, immediate death, etc) instead of the most common explanation that I would naturally (and calmly) come up with if it was one of my patients. It’s just different when it happens to the ones we love. Liz is Max’s blind spot. As well as she makes him see clearer than anyone else. And it’s true; no one really knows what state Liz’s mind is in right now, but one can presume from the way she’s acting around them. Vacant, not paying attention to their discussions, having nightmares, barely eating, spending lots of time alone, locked in bathrooms…Max knows a lot of this stuff (about starvation and the human body/soups, the connection, the need to fight, etc.) but if he was protective and insistent on Liz having free choice before he's going to be off the charts about it now. She's been damaged and at this point no one can be sure of her recovery. No one knows how damaged she is because she *is* putting up a wall.
To Mr. Evans the whole thing is still a bit too technical. He doesn’t have the depths of emotions that Max (or Isabel) has. So to him, there’s an easy solution to Liz’s misery. Max should push through her walls and let their connection heal them. Mr. Evans is aware of the power of a connection - even the power of a ”regular” connection - so he’s hopeful to what a connection as the one M/L share can do.So on that level it makes sense in Philip's eyes for Max to try to force the connection open from his side. If he can get in then the connection can start helping her and they can get an honest assessment of her mental status.
It is curious as to why Mr. Evans opted for taking them to the meeting instead of just letting their connection grow so that they could make a surprise attack on the opposition. There’s probably some reason for this…But for whatever reason Philip had them go to the meeting. And that caused more pain than anyone should have to suffer. If he thinks Max will submit to anything now (even if it's the right thing) he's wrong. The only one who can get through to Max is Liz.
I was not very surprised to hear that Liz’s talk with Diane raised even more questions *laugh* I have no idea how I manage to do that. Which is probably why I’ve written more than 80 chapters for this story, when I never intended for it to be so long. But it kinda just grew underneath my fingers. GaaaahI loved the talk Diane had with Liz. It answered a lot of questions while at the same time raises a couple more. *laughs* Tired of hearing *that* yet?
Even if Mr. Evans doesn’t approve of a lot of the old ways of the aliens, he probably agrees with them about keeping the healing line intact. He wouldn’t want his son to be the last one with that ability. It would also be good if the trait could be spread somehow, so the fate of healing didn’t rely on one family - and even one individual. So either Mr. Evans is a lot crueler than we would think and let’s Max and Liz form a connection to help him in his revolution, only to later wish to break them apart so that Max could reproduce with someone that could give him a child with the healing trait. OR, Mr. Evans knows that Liz is perfect for Max. In any way possible. It’s kinda unlikely that such a strong connection wouldn’t be beneficial to Max and Liz in every way, right? And be beneficial to the community. Plus, Mr. Evans has taken Liz’s blood for years. To look for the development of the gaea gene. It would be easy for him to also ”accidentally” look for the gene that is compatible with producing children with the healing gene.So obviously it was a genetic thing with Diane. That makes me wonder just how close a genetic match Liz is. I'm thinking she's probably as close to perfect as they've found. Otherwise there's no way Philip would use that excuse when he went to Hondo. If Max knows Liz was a close match (and I'm pretty sure he would given his involvement of her check-ups) then Philip saying that would only encourage Max to double-bond with Liz because they *would* have a high chance of creating a healer. Also if she wasn't a good match why bother to bring that up? He would know it was a sore spot with Max and that's not a button you want to push when you're trying to make someone bend to your will.
About Nancy’s miscarriages; You’re certainly onto something there when it comes to the energy required to carry a hybrid full-term. *But* there’s also the added factor of Nancy’s mind being in conflict with her body. Her mind was constantly being forced to work against her body - against herself - on the command by Steven. The connection between mind and body is strong and is needed to sustain a balance in the body. Add onto the required energy levels and the fact that Steven was repeatedly pulling energy from her… This could only equal disaster.So if Liz is a good match and a gaea and they have a strong bond I'm thinking she won't have as many issues as other people obviously have (as hinted at by Diane). And the connection between the mother and the child helps support another theory I have about all of Nancy's miscarriages.
I figure that alien pregnancies use a lot of the mother's energy. Even more so than a normal pregnancy. Add on to that the fact that Nancy would fight Steven's presence and she might have fought against the presence of his children as well. Liz fought Sean without even trying. So if he had tried to create a child with her it would have likely ended the same way as her mother's pregnancies.
Max wouldn’t jeopardize Liz’s health in any way. Even with his own backward thinking (by not stopping Sean’s attempt at bonding with Liz) he was always trying to protect her. Not force her. Giving her space and freedom. And giving her space and freedom wouldn’t include making her pregnant at the age of 16, while living under the threat of an alien society and recovering from the loss of her mother. He wants everything to be on her terms. Because she’s been subjected to their terms her whole life (even if she’s only known about it for the past couple of weeks).In that way Max being so prepared was just another way of protecting her. Without knowing if a double-bond would work and likely knowing her mother wouldn't carry a hybrid to term (even if not knowing the whole history of how bad it was) he wouldn't have wanted Liz in that position until he knew she'd be able to not miscarry. (And of course there's that whole "still in high school, haven't even really dated and sneaking around an alien society's harsh laws" bit.)
If Max (or Isabel) hadn’t carried the healing gene (it was a 50% success after all), it would have been too dangerous (and completely unnecessary) to let Diane keep the babies, since she would have to be brought into the alien world for no reason at all. With ”useless” children. He would have made she aborted, wiped her memories, and she would have met some other nice man and continued with her very human life. Philip would have moved on to his next possible option, hoping to create a child with the healing trait. We don’t know if Diane was even his first attempt or if he has actually fathered some other children that weren’t ”right”… Horrible thought, huh?It's also interesting that Philip would have caused Diane to abort if Max hadn't been a healer. I wonder if that would be just so he could try again or if he would go on to the next "option."
Oh, you’re so so right, my friend. Liz and Max were both created for ”strategy”. With the hopes of them carrying specific genes. Liz carrying on the gaea-line and Max the healing-line. And look how perfect they turned out together, those ”manufactured” beings. But somehow, it seems as if it was meant to be. Not just for the purpose of forming an unbreakable bond that will change the whole alien society, but also for the good of Max and Liz and the people around them.It would be hard to hear that if he wasn't a healer his father would have discarded him. Ignoring everything else (about the beliefs he holds for his society) it's enough to make him hate his heritage... That they could be so cold and callous towards his mother, his sister and himself. He and Liz are a lot alike in this situation. They were both created for "strategy."
Max has had a lot of ups and downs with his father. It’s also hard to tell how much of his comments about his father ”being a good man” have been truthful or just part of a facade about the perfect family to the outside. Darker feelings concerning his father has seeped through on occasion. For instance, when Liz brought an injured/beaten Max home to his family on Max’s request and Max reacted to a look Philip gave Liz. He didn’t trust his father there. He was afraid for Liz’s safety. He shouldn’t have felt that if he considered his father ”a good man”. And there’s the repercussions of Philip’s visit to the Hondo house, on the night that Max and Liz double-bond. Max’s dark thoughts did not only spring from that run-in with his father. They were just brought back up to the surface. So there’s most likely a lot of dynamics behind the scene. Not visible to Liz (even though she unconsciously read a lot of it even before she knew the truth about the Evans family).I'm surprised he still thought his father was a good guy after that. It *would* be a hard pill to swallow. It also adds to the hatred he feels towards the society/himself. If he thought he would have to do the same thing one day... No wonder he holds to Liz so desperately. She's his freedom in so many ways - and she's his purity in a lot of ways too, even if she's a fighter.
Yes, Max’s battle line is drawn around Liz. Even when it comes to his own mother. He views Liz as the person that had the least say in all of this and who has been hurt the most; hence she needs protection. Well, then there’s the fact that he loves her more than he’ll ever love anything else, so…Seeing Max fight his mother (while that's a sad thing) just goes to show exactly where Max's battle line is drawn. Around Liz.
Ever since this whole thing started, Liz has needed to talk to someone about it. She has been tormented about the fact that she hasn’t been able to discuss what’s been going on with her best friend - Maria. Especially about the sex. Because it’s a big thing for her - with or without the alien flavor to it. So Diane is a good enough substitute. Even if she will never be the ice-cream eating gossiping Maria.And, lastly, can I just say that Diane being so open and willing to talk to Liz and *be there* for her is just what the doctor ordered. Liz hasn't had anyone to talk to and even if it's awkward or embarrassing at least she knows she has an option now. Especially since she's missing Maria so badly. And of course having Diane show emotion for her... Everyone else is trying to put on a brave face but what Liz needs is someone who gently acknowledges what happened and will just *cry* with her. No apologies, no guilt, just go through the emotions with her.
Considering what Liz has been through, it's not impossible that she's suffering from an acute form of PTSDLiz really needs to let someone in. Holding everything in is slowly eating her alive. I am far from an expert but to me it seems that she may have a case of Post traumatic stress disorder.
So very trueIt was very sweet of Diane to tell Liz her story. That they both not only fell in love with an alien. They also had their first time with an alien. They were both used by the aliens because of something in their genes.
Two men that both care very deeply for Liz, but have completely different ways of showing it...Poor Liz she has to listen to both men argue over her.
Diane is a lovely womanLove the way Diane cares so much about Liz. Love the story Diane told Liz.
Yes, because she needs to open up to someone.Hoping Liz will either talk to Max and Diane about what happened.
Thank youIt was really nice to read Diane's point of view about her life, with her falling in love with her husband, who obviously wanted to only have an heir with the right blood to make an healer!